TOWN OF
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES
Approved
DATE:
TIME:
PLACE:
PRESENT: Co-Chairman Brian Sullivan, Co-Chairman Andrew Fairbanks,
ABSENT: Alternate Member Bill Condra, and Alternate Member
David Holder
OTHERS: Wilton Planning Board
Minutes
2/21/07
Co-Chairman
1.)
Subdivision –
Barrett Mountain LLC –
Present:
Alec MacMartin, Matt Fish, Brian Sullivan, Andrew Fairbanks, Dan Donovan, Jeff
Kandt, NRPC Rep Steve Wagner, Neil FaimanFairman
Called to
order 7:38 pm
Bill
Davidson appeared before the Board, for Chad Branon of Meridian Services, stating
that he was here to update the Board on their progress.
Subdivision
– Barrett Mountain LLC 7:44-
Bill
Davidson from Meridian Services, stepping in for Chad BrannonBRanner,
Basically
an updateHe
explained , working on legalthat s, Silas got back to the ateornry, she made his
revisions and sent
them back today, monir stuff, he imagined that the isresovledresolved by the next Planning Board meeting. He noted that he added , on this
plan added Note 19 with
reference to , last time here looking for an industrial
use only and Note 16 was expanded
as requested to address
note, Spencer
had an issue on the a pedestrian easement. , Note 16
was expanded to take that into account,He stated that the plans had been reviewed by received
review from , mentioned the is of obond foffsite improvement
agreement with the Selectmen; however he, did not know what those improvements
would be. Bill, assumed that theseis would be dealt withone when the individual
site plans were received since, each one of these lots will come
back with whatever site plan is required depending on by the end user. , Dan
,
does not think that esn’t see
that there would be anyany
off-sitesiute
improvements will be needed as the
properties are s due to it
being oon a state road but
suggested that a , maybe note
statingthat says
that offsite improvements will be assessed upon site
plans.,
Bill questioned the procedure for the
Rroad boand
estimate and the Board stated that traditionally it comes , planning on putting it
together and , board says traditional comes tthrough
the board and is then is
reviewed by the Sselectman
and the Ttown
Eengineer. Bill
stated that they will rr
Road
bounds, set the corners
and then set the road bounds after the road has been constructedion all of which,
would be included in the road bond estimate., once set lot corners would be done by before approva
from this board, They also
discussed that even though
has a mention
of filing SWIFT
plan before construction on his
review there , does
not need to be aa
note on the plan.
Still some
back and forth with Silas, yes but will be taken care, seem minor, done by next
meeting for sure, Carolyn Owne & Silas,
Steve-
leave that the board walks the bounds or put a note for a surveryour,
Leave that
the board walks the bound and leave into the
Will note
the bounds after
Bounds are
not in but will call the board, After some
discussion about where
the bounds meet the
river, Bill stated that
Dan - might
want to verify with , The Sselectman revieweds warrant articles the other evening and he and he doesn does not ’t remember the article
in question.it
Spencer,
someone from WCC should be there to walk the bounds, concerened that the future
owners of the property will not know that there is an easement there and ,
would need to put stakes on the bounds and then the conservation committee
could but there signs 10 feet in,
He can put
stakes on the property lines and then make sure that Spencer will be able to
locate with the
will to walk the bounds and call
Spencer when they are ready. when he calls saying that the bounds are in call,
board will call SpencerSoencers
Discussed
grade stakes versus grade stakes – he will put permanent markers where ewach of
the properties cross the easement and put grade stakes in between so Spencer
can follow for his signagre,
The floor was opened for public comment. There was none.
No public
comment
A MOTION was made by Alec MacMartin and SECONDED by Motion to continue to next meetingAndrew Fairbanks to continue the application to the next meeting., MacMartin, Fairbank,
Voting: 57
ayes;,
motion carried.
2.) John
E Kukulka – Site Plan
Review for Lot F-030-02 on
FaimanFariman and
Donavan resigned,
Bill Davidson, of from Meridian, reappeared
before the Board with passed out revised plans and explained
that the, last two times he was
before the Board they had there was discussiondiscussed the best about density for this
site, noting that his firm
had, decided that the density for th decided on two (2) 36’ by 36’
units.is lot is two units, 36’ by 36’, probably larger
footprint then what is going to be built for He
explained that,
he is unsure of the actual foot print of the units at this time. He also noted that , adjacent to the
units will be a is a
four bay garage with,
two bays for each unit and , added additional
parking space at the existing house.e, He noted that about 75’ in from the road there
is a pavement line where the pavement would end and the , propoased
pavement would end, driveway and parking would be gravel. He noted that this revised plan would include the, same culvert, the still have a retention basin, a , reduced amount the of landscaping that had
originally,, and
now would include an 8%$
impervious cover. The Board discussed different options for the
parking including an island between
each unit’s parking spaces.,
Seems like
a lot of parking spaces, basically the 36’ feet long, storage will be a
premiumum because there will be no basemwent, Sullivan likes the idea of an
island for two spaces between the two units parking,
Bill and
the Board discussed the amount of review that would be necessary for this site due to the fact
that it is a split zone lot with both commercial and residential zones.
The Board noted that outside review would probably be necessary with concern to the runoff and drainage isQuestioned because it is a split zone lot between
residential and commercial, problem in the commercial zone states that anything
besides a single family has to come before the planning board, what does the
board think about that and to what extreme would the site plan process be,
hopin not to go through outside engineering review for this plan, first
paragraph of 7.0, board noted that this district has had problems and whatever
is done on the site needs to deal with the runoff issues in the area, he is
wondering to what
degree of review is needed, board MacMArtin concerned that needs to be reviewed
because of the drainage issues, need outside review maybe just for the
drainage, Fish, worried that this would intentisfy the run off from the BRagdon
property
MacMartin
don’t know that we need a full blown review but do need a review of the
drainage issues,
Bill there
was a problem because there was an 8” pipe that was crushed and not taking on
water, John put in a 12” culvert that ends in the same spot and regarded the
swale, therefore the back up has been dealt with,
MacMArtin,
on the Bragdon property there is a twelve “ culvert under the drive and need
someone to look at the flow between tBRagdon and
Board stated that
it would send the application to LaBombard
Engineering LLC for Review.send the
materialsget an
estimate and an escrow plan will be set up, make sure to get revisions done
first, It was noted that Bill
should do his final revisions before provided plans to be sent for outside
review.
Spencer –
gravel impervious? – Stever after
gravel is compacted it becomes impervious,
He will do new drainage calculations and submit new
plans for
A MOTION was made by Alec
MacMartin and SECONDED by motion to
continue this application to the March 21st1 meeting,.
Voting: seconded by
Fish, 7
ayes; motion carried.
3.) Subdivision – Dorothy S
McGettigan Revocable Trust – Lot F-102 on 8:18
Mike Carter, of
Todd Land Use Cconsultants, appeared before the Board explaining that the had an
agreement that Will & Silas hagreement, which stipulated that the 5 acre
lot under discussion is to be broken out between ad been reviewed by Town Counsel.,
Mike noted that there were the
agreement is stipulating that the 5 acre lot that are intended to be broken out
between Jim and elli’s lots and can not ever be developed, no proposed changes to subdivision plan
set. The Board noted that they
Nneeded
to verify with Town Counsel that he has approved the agreement
language. Silas that
we are good, no one has walked the bounds, will do it and
follow through thaton
any loose ends if a conditional approval were to beis
given by the board.
A MOTION was made by Alec MacMaArtin and SECONDED by Dan Motion
that the board chairman is authorized to sign the mylar without further hearing upon completion of on the condition that the bounds beingare
walked, and the language beingis approved by town counsel for the
restrictive easement. and upon
satisfaction of these conditions, the board
chairman is authorized to sign the mylar without further hearing
Voting: Dan seconded
7 ayes, motion carried.
Alec MacMartin noted that the Board, will need Mylars and some fees to be paid.
4.) Subdivision – E.J. Abbot Trust –
8:28
, of – Monadnock Survey, explained that Town Counsel’s review
Silas letter
mostly spoketalks
about the alteration of boundriesboundaries. She also noted that she added, Nnote 12 which states
that the encroachment is
only shown for informational purpusesepurposes, and Note
11 concerning Parcel A note 6
changed to incorporate, note 11 added concerening parcel a,. Also she changed Note 6.
She noted that the
Cheneys have signed the plan, the Board has the water and sewer orders and the
bounds have been set but not walked., board has water and sewer orders,
A MOTION was made by Alec MacMaArtin and SECONDED by Dan
Voting: 7 ayes; motion
carried. Mortion to accept the application Donavan, 7 ayes
The Board
opened the floor for public comments and saw none. Public comments? None
A MOTION was made by Alec MacMartin and SECONDED by Dan Motion to approve conditional
of the bounds being checked.
Voting: MacMartin, 7
ayes; motion carried.,
Gave mylarsmylars to the
Board.
5.) Subdivision -
Martha J Greene –
Jeff Kandt stepped off the Board as a voting member at
A MOTION was made by Dan
– motion to
continue till April 18, MacMartin 6
ayes, KandtKanst resigned,
Voting: 6 ayes; motion
carried.
Jeff Kandt returned
to the Board as a voting member at
6.) Subdivision - Don & Doroythy Taylor – Lots A-058-06 and C-032 on 8:40
Toumala, of Monadnock
Survey, reappeared before the Board explaining that these
plans were accepted on
Waiervs
have been granted, since they were extensive asked to put note on the plan,
note 8, Kandt walked the bounds, accepted on Jan 17
The Board opened the floor for public comment and
saw none.
A MOTION was made by Dan /MacMartin, moved to approve the plans.
Voting:
Public comment, none
7
ayes; motion carried.
New AppicationsApplications:
7.) Cluster Subdivision – First
Light Farm, LLC – Lots F-095-02,03,07,13,14
and 15 on 8:45
Donald Sienkiewicz, member of First Light
Farmthe applicant, introduced Carl, his wife Katea wifeKatea, Ray Shea , of Sandford Survey ,
Lucia Kitridge, and David
ElyEaley
and Ellen KambolCambpell
from Windy Hill Aassociates. Lucia explained the proposed site plan noting that there are ,
Lucia, property
is 40.576 acres of land, which
includes 1.2 acres of wetland, steep slopes on the East side and, but a
large area of level terrain at the top of the hill. She
explained that this,
proposal includes aning
access road up the slope from Issac
Frye which will , proposinglead to a a loop road with several clutersclusters on
it for a total of 25 homes. She noted
that there will be 28 acres, or , 75%, of open space, 28 acres
open, after allowing an for exclusive area for each houses. She explained that the proposal includes a , sited with solar, large green in clarge green in the center which
would serve as a community center and community gardens and also they
are, proposing that some of the more
gentle slopes would be cleared to create views and creat
meadows. Lucia
explained that they are , proposing that the snow
mobile trail would be rerouted and open for non motorized traffic. She explained that the loops,
perimeter buffer of 105’ which is double the cluster ordincace, proposing
selective clearing on the 15-25,
Hhomes would be
primarily detached single family
homes with the possibility, possible a of a few duplex homes and attached garages for each home; however, she noted, this is subject to change., subject to change, showing homes with attached garages,
could change, intent is to provide attached garages, proposing community
bulding which would be available for everyone livingin the community,
David ElyEaley,
architect at Wwindy
Hhill
Aassociates, explained that he had only designed one type of
home so far out of the four or five proposed types of homes. He noted that they
are trying to make the most of the natural elements including solar exposure
and that they are trying to create a community with houses close together and
screened in porches, desgined one home so far, looking to blend with
traditional homes of new England and also the Pine Hill school, unique because
trying to create a community, siting homes very close
together so people can interact with their neighbors as they walk by, screened
in porch, possible solar panel, southern exposure with lots of windows, views
from the sight means views to the sight, tried to keep profile low to blend
with topograohy, lot of thought going into it while
keeping the housing costs low.,
In response
to a question from the Board pertaining to
lot size, Fish seems
difficult to blend such nce housing with lower income housing,
ElyEaley, proposing to do a mix,
Fairbank?
Everyone with a garage?
ElyEaley- right now, discussed having a community garage,
MacMArtin,
square footage?
ElyEaley- 2350, second largest in the four different kinds
Fish- lot
size
Ray Shea stated
that they – have notnt done a lot of engineering at this
point., right now not
looking at lots rather limited common area, about 1100 feet East of Abbot Hill
and Issac Frye, to 10 acre lots from Four Corner He explained that this site is
made up of six lots that abut Four Cornerss Farm, made up
of 6 lots, access road is the exact location of the private drive which served
the four lots at the top of the hill, 8% grade to the top of the hill, with the access road being the o originally
private way that lead to the property. He noted
that he needs to discuss with the Board if there is any relief
to be found from the standard widths need for a public access road. designed in terms of width, need to discuss if
there is ant relief from the standar He explained that they were planning to use three
or four septic tanks and two common wells as well as
two cisterns , looking to break up seewarge into every ¾ hours,
2 common wells, fire chief looking for 2 cisterns at the top of
the hill have pipes running down and
attachinged
to hydrants as requested but he Fire Chief.that he can pull from it, open space, eliminated road
area and 50 feet from houses, will provide alternate areas for septic but have
not yet,
The Board
then had a discussion about density with a final
determination being that the applicants probably
would not be able to put anymore
then 22.5 homes on this site, maybe
less. The Board also discussed the isMacMartin: #9 look at what was there in 1989, which
was one lot, so there is already development on the original parcel, if it had
held together as a large lot it would have been 25% density but now since it
has already been subdivided the density is 12.5%, the original subdivision
would have supported 6 houses, but this proposal would mean a 400% increase.
The idea of the ordinance was that if you were to keep the original plot intack
one received more of a bonus, it would be a consolidation of lots and then it
would be a condimunimum complex,
Fairbank –
seems that this would be in the spirit of the cluter ordinances,
Open space
would be available to everyone in the town, the central green would be mostly
for residents but all the open space and foot trails would be open to the
public
Issues –
read through the cluster regulations and the subdivision regulations, road
should be 600’ but is 1100’ , would like to keep the roads as narrow as
possible so people want to drive slowly and kids can be safe,
A MOTION was made by Alec MacMartin and SECONDED by Board, the road would become the a town road,
Would not qualify for the road right now but
foresees waivers needed down the road,
Why does it have to be a public road?
MacMArtin: because of the people running in and
out, because
Have to be concerned about a fire truck getting in
and out, 18 feet is the absolute minimum, would need packed shoulders, can
accomplish a country looking road with geographic planning,
Spencer noted that 84 houses
Delia Windwalk Burns hill road
Currently they could have 20 houses with a
potential of 22 houses but there are a number of requirements that havt o be
met
Suggest that the Riverwalk minutes,
Riverwalk, Highfields, Orchard Fields,
Motion to continue, to
Voting: 7 ayes, motion
carried. MacMartin/Faiman, 7 aye
Sign Applications- 9:45
8.) Pike Industries – Sign application to permit the placement of an
off-premises sign for Pike Industries at the corner of
-
The applicant was not present.
A MOTION was made by Alec MacMartin and SECONDED by Board, the road would become the a town road,
Would not qualify for the road right now but
foresees waivers needed down the road,
Why does it have to be a public road?
MacMArtin: because of the people running in and
out, because
Have to be concerned about a fire truck getting in
and out, 18 feet is the absolute minimum, would need packed shoulders, can
accomplish a country looking road with geographic planning,
Spencer noted that 84 houses
Delia Windwalk Burns hill road
Currently they could have 20 houses with a
potential of 22 houses but there are a number of requirements that havt o be
met
Suggest that the Riverwalk minutes,
Riverwalk, Highfields, Orchard Fields,
Motion to continue, to
Voting: 7 ayes, motion
carried.no one present, MacMartin stated that he agreed to
move the sign back 15 feet,, MacMArtin continue Faiman, 7 ayes
9.) Jill Murray – Sign
Application to permit the placement of a sign
The applicant was not n present.
A MOTION was made by Dan
Voting: 7 ayes, motion
carried.
Donavan.MacMArtin coniure
Pre-Applications
10.) Amber &
Wendell Fisk – Sugar House Proposal for
The applicants were not not prpresent.
11.) Craig Checani – Site Plan
Review - F017 40 West Intervale
Road
requesting a
waiver on a site plan,
This
applicant is requesting that the Board approve the application for a one man office with no more then three cars for sale at a
time. The Board discussed that this site is in the aquifer district and that
the applicant may have difficulty getting the
application approved due to the possible leakage of car fluids. The applicant
noted that he is attempting to get a minor dealers license from the state. The Board explained that they
could easily approve the application without the cars present but they were
unsure if this would meet the applicant’s needs for the state. They did, however
state that they would be inclined to accept the less formal plans as long as he
included the nature of the business and hours on the drawing and had a separate application for the signage.
Smack down
in the aquifer district and worries about car leakage,
Questions
of vehicles on site? Only three cars to public at any given time, not going to
wash the car, doubt he would have more then one vehicle at a time, needs
approval to use it as a base, not planning on opening a auto shop and washing
and waxing cars,
\
If all you
were asking for was to have your office in that building then that would
probably be okay, but your asking to have cars on the property, the department
of safety requires that you are approved for zoning
Could turn
in a drawing 22 days before next months meeting ans state what you are going to
be doing in that office, and state that you will not have cars for sale on
site,
The
regulations do not say anything about car sales, however it would require a
closer space,
The board
stated that the board would be inclined to accept the less than professional
application,
Nature of
business, and hours on the drawings, separate application for signage,
12.) 0:10
Mathew
Harwood – 2 Dawn TuomalaToumala, Fish steped back
aquiph explained that this application was for two duplexes to be located on a site two homes down
from the LA Limo company. She noted that she has no plans to be anywhere near the
river buffer line and
therefore has not included in on the plans.er district, shoreline protection act did not put
the 50 foot river buffer line to ease confusion, two homes down from the LA
Limo companyobtained frontage various, proposing duplexes on both, three
accesses to the property, meeting with She also explained that there
are currently three accesses to the site but she is meeting with DOT and proposing to get rid of two of the entrances2 and leavinge just the
most easterly. She noted that the , ZBA required parking in the back and that she will and no
longer on the road, need s to reroute drainage as currently,
there are catch basins that land in the proposed building., driveway is
10’, supposed to be 16’ wide, would like a variounce,
MacMArtin,
suggested that it might be a hazard with one car coming in and one out with 10
feet, the lot has been filled all the way down to the river, going to deal with the river people on Frifirday, and the Cconservation Committee
on March 12, and meeting
with the Board of Selectman on Monday for any offsite improvements.,
She also noted that a letter which was written by order ofot the ZBA, regarding
the fill, is
to be attached to with the
plans. regarding
the fill,
The
application will get noticed,
Issues,
concerens? Can she give the easement to Carla to get sent out to legal?
Other Business:
13.) Gravel Excavation
Renewals- Quinn Brothers Tom Quinn- (Jim Quinn representing)
,
made a full insepectioninspection
and everything looked fine, noting
that he, saw all the signs on the steep
excavation areas, all the fuel areas were maintained, and he, Abbot hill pit, he saw
equipment ready for reclamation of pit.,
A MOTION was made by Alec MacMaArtin and SECONDED by Neil, Faiman motion to
accept the renewal permit, Lot F-122, M-059, F-173, E-022, E-023,
E-017, and E-021.
Voting: 7 ayes, motion carried.
A MOTION was made by Alec MacMartin and SECONDED by
Voting: 7 ayes, motion carried.
MacMartin
Faiman motion to grant renewals, 7ayes
The Board
discussed upcoming business with a determination that they would have
a Public Hearing on repealing regulations on
The Board
also discussed submission times and whether they should change their current policy. March 7th meeting 7:30
Submission
times? When things should be do? Forget 21 days, make
Dawn – very
confusing, would like to see one submission date, the day before the meeting,
today she would hand you all of those packages, then Steve could have 10 days
for review,
The Board
noted that the Supreme Ccourt ruled in
the Chalet SuisseSuez
isour side of the
Board.,
The Board
discussed correspondence from the
Faiman – got email with someone with Good News
Church, questioned whether they should have had a special exception, they
wanted to make sure that they didn’t needed a special exception
The Board
discussed a question by Gert Ducharme as to
stump disposal regulations with a determination that as long as the stumps
belong to her there are no regulations but if she is getting paid to dump the
stumps then she has to follow the home business ordinances., asked if
there are any regulations about stump disposal, looked at our ordinance
nothing, Spencer got in touch with DES, there are regulations which have to be
met, but not permits, if they are getting paid it’s a business,
If there
are stumps off of her property its fine, but if they are coming from offsite its different,
CJwalter@Tds.net
The Board
discussed an ongoing is
A MOTION was made by Dan Dogs? It was reported to police, not against
ordinance, he indicated that he was raising the dogs for his own show, but now
there is a website, and he will get to the police after checking it out.
Motion to
adjourn the meeting at
Voting: 7 ayes; motion
carried.
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